Karl Rove .. “Where conscience forbids most others . . .”

Update on FixedIntelGate & Mr. Rove's Satanism:

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     I saw Mr. McCain on BeachBall when he lost even the seed-corn of his soul. He parrots the RNC (Reptilian National Committee) Talking Points about Joe Wilson and FixedIntelGate as if he had a key to turn in his yellow-striped back. He lived through prisoner of war camp hell to throw away his moral compass now? The bloodsplatter of corruption this White House has despoiled so many people with is boschian¹.

     As Jay Inslee (D Washington) said about our going to <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = “urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags” />Iraq under false pretences which is the hub of this FixedIntelGate  wheel, “In Watergate, nobody died.”)


      I vividly remember a candidates' panel that Larry King had on after South Carolina in the run-up to the 2000 coronation. John McCain was so angry at George Bush for the pushpolling character assassination orchestrated by the utterly-ugly-of-souless Karl Rove and his other vicious early proto-swiftboatian tactics that McCain was leaning white-faced and hissing across the anchor desk, “You should apologize, George. You know what I mean. You should apologize, George.” etc. Then on BeachBall a few days ago, he just shrugs it off!?


I terrified the cats so much rage did I hurl at the tv. I stamped around the living room slavering I gotta say. I thought maybe McCain or Hagel would have a vertebra if not a spine.


The two missing pieces I am crazed to know are who asked Marc Grossman to ask Carl Ford to do the State Department Memo? (I recall a long time ago that Joe Wilson said that he still had friends in the 'business' who told him that 'the White House had asked for a work-up on Wilson' — I  sort of recall the work-up being posited as being that March or April 2003, not the June 10 date?) My gloss on the idea of 'work-up' is that it sounded like some j:edgar:hoovery Get The Dirt or the Lever kind of thing. That's the piece I want to know about.


And who in the heck is Judy Miller protecting? Whoever it is is just letting her stew in jail. Could it be whoever foie-gras force-fed her that convincing villain Chalabi to whom we really owe all of this fantasy cum nightmare in the Cradle?


I heard as a total rumor that Fitzgerald knows who her source is but needs her to say it in order to proceed or prosecute?


In an article in the Atlantic Nov 2004, Josh Green talks about Karl Rove’s willingness, as a few examples among many, to start a whisper campaign in Texas to smear Ann Richards as being a lesbian and lesbian sympathizer, [stupid] anathemas in the back country of  the Lone Star State. A pushpolling in South Carolina calling Mrs. Cindy McCain a drug addict and Mr.McCain, the ‘father’ of a black baby. (They adopted a child from Bangladesh actually.) “‘What Rove does,’ says Joe Perkins, ‘is try to make something so bad for a family that the candidate will not subject the family to the hardship. Mark is not your typical Alabama macho, beer-drinkin', tobacco-chewin', pickup-drivin' kind of guy. He is a small, well-groomed, well-educated family man, and what they tried to do was make him look like a homosexual pedophile. That was really, really hard to take.’
    “Rove seems to understand—indeed, to count on—the media's unwillingness or inability, whether from squeamishness, laziness, or professional caution, ever to give a full estimate of him or his work. It is ultimately not just Rove's skill but his character that allows him to perform on an entirely different plane. Along with remarkable strategic skills, he has both an understanding of the media's unstated self-limitations and a willingness to fight in territory where conscience forbids most others.” 

“Where conscience forbids most others.”

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4 thoughts on “Karl Rove .. “Where conscience forbids most others . . .”

  1. Reporters repeat and re-repeat all the untrue talking points' non-sins of Joseph Wilson. Not once in these weeks have I heard any of Karl Rove's character or lack there of evidence. I guess if you're awful enough and are still loose, people find it hard to speak these lousy stories in the daylight.
    And of course even if Joseph Wilson were a scoundrel, it would have nothing whatever to do with the evil outing of his wife. Yet whether he is or isn't St. Joseph keeps being raised. This is text-book propaganda.

  2. http://pacer.cadc.uscourts.gov/docs/common/opinions/200502/04-3138a.pdf
    these 2 documents, one is the brief in the Miller Cooper case and the other is an article about the subpoena sent to Judith Miller suggest strongly that Fitzgerald knows the identity of Miller's source.
    Wanted to mention 2 personal events in Karl Rove's life that are at least interesting. His “parents” divorced when he was 19, after they separated Rove learned that the man he thought was his father wasn't. Second, Rove's mother committed suicide when he was 21. He is no doubt psychologically interesting.

  3. Josh Green's article about Mr. Rove's unfettered willingness to smear people is remarkably chilling. There are people twisted by power throughout ourstory who we remember for centuries. I think when the full story of Mr. Rove's deep willingness to go after people's actual strengths with outright lies and ruin their reputations and lives and say as Mr. Bush did to Mr. McCain with a shrug, “It's politics, John,” Rove will be remembered with the Torquemadas and Machiavellis. Even if you don't know exactly what they did, your skin involuntarily crawls. They were willing to be inhuman or anti-human in a way the rest of us cannot fathom.
    Mr. Rove is a serial Smearer. He gets worse and more bold as he keeps getting away with it. And it is often this peculiar sexual innuendo — his rival who supposedly made a pass at a young man at a Repulican bbq; Ann Richards as lesbian and lesbian sympathizer; the judge with children's charities as pedophile. Accusations where the poor deny-er gets in a “Have you stopped beating your wife' circular hell.
    I am sick of someone who acts, in Green's phrase, “where conscience forbids most others' getting cut such slack in the media. At the very least this person should be shunned.
    I think, by the way, his mother's death was when he was 31 (He was born on December 25, 1950 and she died in 1981) so as horrible as losing a parent is, he was already deep in fetid deeds by then.
    Also *I* would be completely happy to have the wonderful Ann Richards be a lesbian or whatever the heck she wants. But in Texas at the time, this was spread as a 'dirty secret.' Some parts of Texas lagging in their ability to encompass variety.
    It is impossible to get the Smearodent Toothpaste back in the tube. What is John McCain to say? “No, I didn't father a black baby with a prostitute.” Then just even more people hear about it and wonder. Or John Kerry and the Swift Boat ads. “No, it was dangerous as hell and I could have died and I was really brave, unlike you you chicken hawk.” You can't rebut this garbage without sounding defensive or vain. The victim of these tactics is in a serious trap.

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